Will Microsoft succeed in the smartphone wars? Or (remain) irrelevant? Is the smartphone, as Microsoft hopes and believes, but one satellite within the personal computing solar system? Or is the smartphone the future of personal computing, the new paradigm?
I write on these questions often. But for this post, I'll let two regular commenters take the podium.
Yes, making it easy for anyone to comment means that haters and fanboys, assholes and bombthrowers, small-minded agitators and corporate flaks will have still another platform to hurl their nonsense. But, one of the very best parts of this site is the commenters.
Earlier this week I wrote about Windows Phone. I think the entire Windows Phone strategy and anti-app nature of the operating system doom the platform to less-than-Bing global market share.
Time will tell if I am right. However, two commenters offered up a far more robust view:[unedited; but I have bolded what I think are the best points]
anobserver
The important point is that Microsoft is not fighting the battle to win the mobile space, but the war to control the computing space. Just like Google and Apple -- but unlike RIM, Nokia (which were limited to the mobile space and could not enter the whole computing space) or HP (which did not understand the issue -- see the WebOS and PC debacle).
This war is fought on many fronts, not just smartphones. Cloud? Microsoft is in it with such things as Office 365 and Storage Spaces. Search? Microsoft has Bing. Enterpriseinfrastructure? Check. Gaming? Xbox. Patents? Microsoft quietly won against Android.
Of course, there are those other rumors about Microsoft gaining access to the huge Nokia patent portfolio, or even buying parts of Nokia outright in 2012.
In essence, Windows 8 is the weapon which Microsoft hopes will help reach a decisive turning point -- with an integrated desktop, laptop, tablet and phone environment, with compatibility with a massive installed base of Windows software.
Apple is also fighting this war, successfully, but there are retrenchments: it has exited the enterprise server business, and its latest revision of Final Cut is already leading media companies to shy away from the Apple environment for their video processing needs (a core, very loyal customer base so far). It has limitations in the Internet offering (which search engine, mailing, shared document or video download system are you using? My guess: one of Google's many instantiations).
All this depends on Microsoft delivering, and it will really happen only one year from now. I already said this was a big "if".
See, if this is a war, consider that Microsoft is not agile. It is not a brilliant tactician. It relies one weapon really -- the artillery of Windows and Office. But it has grit. It can send divisions to occupy a small territory that it considers important, taking huge losses for a long time before becoming solidly entrenched, just like with the Xbox. It can try its standard procedure, fail (like with Vista), and come again with better artillery pieces -- it will not give up like HP.
Now it has sent its WP division to foray into the mobile space where it is getting battered. Meanwhile, Microsoft HQ is deliberately preparing an artillery barrage with a combined set of new generation weapons ranging from heavy howitzer to field mortar.
If the last four years have taught us anything, is that incumbency is not a defense. We have seen:
1. The appearance of Apple in the mobile space, and the disappearance of Palm.
2. The rise of HTC and Samsung to prominence, and the parallel demise of Nokia and RIM.
3. The rise of touchscreen phones and of Android (after Apple).
4. The renaissance of tablets.
5. An unending see-saw between local apps, distributed cloud, and web.
Every single year since 2007 has seen something new take place and cards being reshuffled. Ido not think we can discount Microsoft yet -- not until Windows 8 has demonstrably failed.
Gandhi
If they are fighting the war to win the computing space, they are losing miserably.
Bing - failure
XBox - like Android, market share, but no profits
Microsoft has Windows and they have Office. They keep trying to jam these two offerings in to new markets, thinking they will succeed. Evidence so far is that they will not.
Apple retrenchment in the enterprise? Apple never was big in enterprise. But also keep in mind, they run the world's largest online stores. Their iCloud set up has just started. Apple has Mail and iCloud for email and shared docs, Siri to disintermediate online search, iTunes for video downloads.
Nokia has valuable patents, but who knows how many of them are FRAND, and which ones are proprietary. And who knows which ones Apple has licensed already.
If this is a war, and Windows 8 is their magic bullet, then i am afraid Microsoft is already failing. Last year, the hype was Windows 8 every where, all apps and applications running on all types of devices. Then they had to back track and say only certain apps and applications for certain devices, only certain interfaces for certain form factors.
So far, Windows 8 is vaporware. Smoke and mirrors. You yourself stated, a lot can happen in a year. You think will be Apple is sitting still allowing the competition to catch up?
In the five years since the first iPhone was introduced, Apple has
Released and sold four more generations, each one outselling the previous one
Release 2 tablets that dominate the market
Release AppleTV, a "hobby," that dominates its particular niche
Release another platform in Siri
Released their own interpretation of cloud services
Released the next generation of the notebook in the Air
Created the phone and tablet app market, whcih it dominates
In the meantime, Microsoft has
Released XBox - a financial failure, plagued with failing devices requiring an expensive warranty extension
Vista - derided by many, but a profitable one
Windows 7
Office versions
Windows Phone 7 - flop so far
Windows 8 - smoke and mirrors so far.
Outside of Windows and Office, where has Microsoft made any money or any level of commercial success.
What the fuck is Steve Balmer doing? When is Windows 8 supposed to be out? this Fall. I bet it won't be released until Fall 2013, at the earliest. And if Windows 8 is released early, it will not sport most of the features that you tout and hope for like "with an integrated desktop, laptop, tablet and phone environment, with compatibility with a massive installed base of Windows software"
Except for Samsung, all the other Android makers are sucking wind, along with RIMM and Nokia. The renaissance in tablets is because of Apple, and only Apple is benefiting so far. No other tablet is making any headway against the iPad. We'll see how Kindle Fire does. There is no see saw between apps, cloud storage and web. The app is winning
anobserver
BSH: please delete the previous, mangled posting.
I do not expect to succeed at having fanboys get a nuanced view of the world, but I will nevertheless try a last time.
1. I do not particularly like Microsoft stuff, and I make a wide detour around WP devices. I am not hoping or praying for Microsoft's success (or Apple's, or Google's).
2. Nevertheless, I see that Microsoft has a plan, and it is a shrewd one.
3. I also see clearly that it is difficult to deliver on this plan. Didn't I say that first?
4. I also see clearly that Microsoft has very deep pockets, and the will to stick to its guns for a long time. This is a historical fact.
5. The fight is on every front of the computing world, and Microsoft is present (not necessarily dominant) on every front.
6. The fight is fundamentally undecided at this stage -- as it has been for the last 4 years. Disruptions have been going on ceaselessly.
Now for some detailed remarks.
> XBox - like Android, market share,
> but no profits
Attempting to deny other contenders the opportunity of market share and profits might be important as well. Besides learning about a market and acquiring competence organically.
The Entertainment&Devices division of Microsoft has been making a profit for years, by the way.
> Apple never was big in enterprise.
My point is that they seem to be losing the few, very loyal customers they had. Not good.
> Their iCloud set up has just started.
Based on your logic, 2 years ago we would have pronounced Apple presence in cloud computing a dead end. After all, MobileMe was an utter failure...
> Apple has Mail and iCloud for email
> and shared docs, iTunes for video
> downloads.
Yep. As I said, the fight is not for mobile, but for computing. Microsoft is present there as well. But it is Google which dominates (remember my question about which services you are actually using?)
> i am afraid Microsoft is already failing.
Never discount a major, healthy contender prematurely.
And you are not afraid, but sound positively gleeful about it.
> Release AppleTV, a "hobby," that
> dominates its particular niche
So dominating a niche is proof of wide superiority?
> Released their own interpretation of
> cloud services
That is rubbish PR language. Every player has its "own interpretation" of cloud services. Where is the beef compared to Google and Amazon?
> I bet it won't be released until Fall 2013,
> at the earliest.
You made several pronouncements that entail an unusual capacity to predict the future. Why don't you make a fortune speculating on Microsoft stock then?
> The renaissance in tablets is because
> of Apple
Wrong. The renaissance was because of the Kindle -- a tablet for e-book and media consumption introduced successfully 3 years before Apple launched the iPad.
> The app is winning
Nope. There is a see-saw going on.
Remember: the first variant of the iPhone was not about apps (one could not even install them on the iPhone 2G), but the superior experience when browsing the Internet. This remains a major element in smartphone platforms (because who wants/can look for, install, and manage apps for every single service one wants to access?) Technology (HTML5 and all that) economics (apps development, versioning and management on several OS and OS versions is expensive) and the cloud (why should you need local apps if what you want to do is move them to the cloud?) are again moving in that direction -- although apps are at present all the rage.
And no, I do not expect Apple (or Google, or Amazon, or even starkly listing ships such as RIM or Nokia) to sit inactive while Microsoft deploys its guns.
No matter what happens, 2012 will be interesting.
Gandhi
Please, don't resort to name calling. I can think of plenty of names to call you as well, but shall refrain. Debate if you must, but name calling only serves to belittle your arguments.
Not going to go over every point you made, since we would be going in circles, but I will address this -
>You
made several pronouncements that entail an >unusual capacity to predict
the future. Why don't >you make a fortune speculating on Microsoft stock
>then?
I would, except MSFT has gone no where in the last decade.
My overall point is that I see nothing in Windows 8 that will enable Microsoft to regain its once dominant position. You think Microsoft will succeed, i think they won't. Everything announced so far is smoke and mirrors. And they seem to be backtracking even from their predicted plans. The greatest strategy is of no benefit if it cannot be implemented successfully.
Microsoft seems to be putting all their eggs in the Windows 8 basket. If they succeed, they will be dominant once again. If they fail, they will coast along continue milking Windows and Office like IBM today does their mainframes and services. Not necessary a bad place to be for a corporation, but certainly not in the middle of the fight for the computing world, as you put it.
We'll see.
Great stuff. While I believe, and it admittedly tends to become faith-based, that the all computing, content and the entirety of the Internet will effectively collapse inside the smartphone -- and thus, the future of the smartphone is the future of computing -- this is a view that cannot be proven for years, at least.
Game on!